Transmuto

NEW EPISODE STREAMING:

"Centers of Intelligence: The Heart of the Matter"

What happens when you get a Two, a Three, and a Four in the same room and ask them to be honest?

William Robert Reed (Type 2), Leslie Quilico (Type 3), and George Patton (Type 4) form this panel of the Enneagram's Heart Center — three types shaped by the question every one of them has carried longer than they'd like to admit: Am I enough, just as I am?

Together they address the issues of performing, giving and giving, and longing for something just out of reach and not always knowing what it is. And about what starts to happen when you stop managing how you're seen and just... show up.

If you've ever felt like the role you were playing was more real than you were — this one's for you.

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