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Why is respectful disagreement so important in relationships?
On this week's episode of With & For, poet Christian Wiman and theologian Miroslav Volf explain how they wrestled with these two big questions.
In this conversation, they discuss speaking to our deepest needs for transcendence and connection. If we’re going to transcend muffled lives and cut through the noise, we need a sharp, almost brutal honesty.
Follow With & For hosted by Dr. Pam King on your favorite podcast platforms to listen to the full conversation with Christian Wiman and Miroslav Volf.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/with-and-for-hosted-by-dr-pam-king/id1712333330
06/09/2026
Spiritual growth isn't about rigid intellectual certainty, and life's deepest hardships and greatest loves rarely offer us neat answers.
Instead of chasing black-and-white clarity, Christian Wiman and Miroslav Volf join Dr. Pam King to explore the beautifully complex and often messy landscape of human faith.
In this episode of With & For, Christian and Miroslav look closely at modern spirituality, sharing why a healthy, deeply rooted relationship with the divine doesn't require an intense, driving hunger to be valid.
Follow With & For hosted by Dr. Pam King to listen to the full episode wherever you get your podcasts.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/with-and-for-hosted-by-dr-pam-king/id1712333330
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