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Episode 4 of What Happened in Alabama? is out now.

Around 1910, Black farmers collectively owned over 16 million acres of farmland. A century later, over 90% of that land is no longer owned by Black farmers. In Lee’s own family, the acquisition and loss of land has been a contentious issue for nearly every generation, sometimes leading to tragic circumstances. In this episode, Lee heads back to Alabama to meet his cousin Zollie, a longtime steward of the family land, to learn more.

Lee is later joined by Jillian Hishaw, an agricultural lawyer and author, who has devoted her life to helping Black families keep their land. They discuss the tumultuous history of Black land ownership and what Black families should do to keep land in the family.

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We’re thrilled to announce that the first two episodes of What Happened in Alabama? are now available!

In Episode 1, we meet Lee Hawkins and his Dad, and through them, we discover the roots of What Happened in Alabama? and reveal the stakes of daring to ask the question – and all the questions that followed.

In Episode 2, Lee sits down with his younger sister Tiffany to discuss the tensions in their childhood home. Lee also talks with psychotherapist and trauma expert Brandon Jones to uncover the roots of his parents’ fears, and how it dates back to slavery and the Jim Crow era in the United States.

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